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Kaaba was a Hindu temple, part one and two by Lal Gehi
Sacrificer Lal Gehi
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Sacrifice date 25 march 2009
Kaaba was a Hindu temple, part one and two by Lal Gehi
Satish ji, Here is a 2nd part of Kaaba was a Hindu temple.
Regards, Lal Gehi
Further to my earlier article, herewith more details to substantiate
the claim of black stone worship to be that of Shiva Lingha. As the pilgrim
proceeds towards Mecca he is asked to shave his head and beard and to
don special sacred attire that consists of two seamless sheets of white
cloth. One is to be worn round the waist and the other over the shoulders.
Both these rites are remnants of the old Vedic practice of entering Hindu
temples clean- and with holy seamless white sheets.
The main shrine in Mecca, which houses the Siva emblem, is known as the
Kaaba. It is clothed in a black shroud. That custom also originates from
the days when it was thought necessary to discourage its recapture by
According to the Encyclopaedia Britannica, the Kaaba has 360 images. Traditional
accounts mention that one of the deities among the 360 destroyed when
the place was stormed, was that of Saturn; another was of the Moon and
yet another was one called Allah. That shows that in the Kaaba the Arabs
worshipped the nine planets in pre-Islamic days. In India the practice
of 'Navagraha' puja, that is worship of the nine planets, is still in
vogue. Two of these nine are Saturn and Moon.
In India the crescent moon is always painted across the forehead of the
Siva symbol. Since that symbol was associated with the Siva emblem in
Kaaba it came to be grafted on the flag of Islam.
Another Hindu tradition associated with the Kaaba is that of the sacred
stream Ganga (sacred waters of the Ganges river). According to the Hindu
tradition Ganga is also inseparable from the Shiva emblem as the crescent
moon. Wherever there is a Siva emblem, Ganga must co-exist. True to that
association a sacred fount exists near the Kaaba. Its water is held sacred
because it has been traditionally regarded as Ganga since pre-Islamic
times (Zam-Zam water).
[Note: Even today, Muslim pilgrims who go to the Kaaba for Haj regard
this Zam-Zam water with reverence and take some bottled water with them
as sacred water.]
Muslim pilgrims visiting the Kaaba temple go around it seven times. In
no other mosque does the circumambulation prevail. Hindus invariably circumambulate
around their deities. This is yet another proof that the Kaaba shrine
is a pre-Islamic Indian Shiva temple where the Hindu practice of circumambulation
is still meticulously observed.
The practice of taking seven steps- known as Saptapadi in Sanskrit- is
associated with Hindu marriage ceremony and fire worship. The culminating
rite in a Hindu marriage enjoins upon the bride and groom to go round
the sacred fire . Since "Makha" means fire, the seven circumambulations
also prove that Mecca was the seat of Indian fire-worship in the West
It might come as a stunning revelation to many that the word 'ALLAH'
itself is Sanskrit. In Sanskrit language Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms.
They signify a goddess or mother. The term 'ALLAH' forms part of Sanskrit
chants invoking goddess Durga, also known as Bhavani, Chandi and Mahishasurmardini.
The Islamic word for God is., therefore, not an innovation but the ancient
Sanskrit appellation retained and continued by Islam. Allah means mother
or goddess and mother goddess.
Many Koranic verses are the exact translation of a stanza in the Yajurveda
and Samveda. This was pointed out by the great research scholar Dr. Gamal
abu Hamza of Cairo university. In March 1993, he declared his firm belief
that Mohd had been to Kashmir to learn Vedanta. He was later threatened
by fundamentalist. He then disappered from the scene. [Note: Another Cairo
university scholar points out that the following teaching from the Koran
is exactly similar to the teaching of the Kena Upanishad (1.7).
"Sight perceives Him not. But He perceives men's sights; for He is
the knower of secrets , the Aware."
"That which cannot be seen by the eye but through which the eye
itself sees, know That to be Brahman (God) and not what people worship
here (in the manifested world)."
A simplified meaning of both the above verses reads:
God is one and that He is beyond man's sensory experience.]
It will now be easy to comprehend the various Hindu customs still prevailing
in West Asian countries even after the existence of Islam during the last
1300 years. Let us review some Hindu traditions which exist as the core
of Islamic practice.
The Hindus have a pantheon of 33 gods. People in Asia Minor too worshipped
33 gods before the spread of Islam. The lunar calendar was introduced
in West Asia during the Indian rule. The Muslim month 'Safar' signifying
the 'extra' month (Adhik Maas) in the Hindu calendar. The Muslim month
Rabi is the corrupt form of Ravi meaning the sun because Sanskrit 'V'
changes into Prakrit 'B' (Prakrit being the popular version of Sanskrit
language). The Muslim sanctity for Gyrahwi Sharif is nothing but the Hindu
Ekadashi (Gyrah = elevan or Gyaarah). Both are identical in meaning.
Eid in Sanskrit means worship. The Islamic word Eid for festive days,
signifying days of worship, is therefore a pure Sanskrit word. The word
MESH in the Hindu zodiac signifies a lamb. Since in ancient times the
year used to begin with the entry of the sun in Aries, the occasion was
celebrated with mutton feasting. That is the origin of the Eid festival.
Since Eid means worship and Griha means 'house', the Islamic word Idgah
signifies a 'House of worship' which is the exact Sanskrit connotation
of the term. Similarly the word 'Namaz' derives from two Sanskrit roots
'Nama' and 'Yajna' (NAMa yAJna) meaning bowing and worshipping.
Vedic descriptions about the moon, the different stellar constellations
and the creation of the universe have been incorporated from the Vedas
in Koran part 1 chapter 2, stanza 113, 114, 115, and 158, 189, chapter
9, stanza 37 and chapter 10, stanzas 4 to 7.
Recital of the Namaz five times a day owes its origin to the Vedic injunction
of Panchmahayagna (five daily worship- Panch-Maha-Yagna) which is part
of the daily Vedic ritual prescribed for all individuals.
Muslims are enjoined cleanliness of five parts of the body before commencing
prayers. This derives from the Vedic injuction 'Shareer Shydhyartham Panchanga
Four months of the year are regarded as very sacred in Islamic custom.
The devout are enjoined to abstain from plunder and other evil deeds during
that period. This originates in the Chaturmasa i.e., the four-month period
of special vows and austerities in Hindu tradition. Shabibarat is the
corrupt form of Shiva Vrat and Shiva Ratra. Since the Kaaba has been an
important centre of Shiva (Siva) worship from times immemorial, the Shivaratri
festival used to be celebrated there with great gusto. It is that festival
which is signified by the Islamic word Shabibarat.
Encyclopaedias tell us that there are inscriptions on the side of the
Kaaba walls. What they are, no body has been allowed to study, according
to the correspondence I had with an American scholar of Arabic. But according
to hearsay at least some of those inscriptions are in Sanskrit, and some
of them are stanzas from the Bhagavad Gita.
According to extant Islamic records, Indian merchants had settled in
Arabia, particularly in Yemen, and their life and manners deeply influenced
those who came in touch with them. At Ubla there was a large number of
Indian settlements. This shows that Indians were in Arabia and Yemen in
sufficient strength and commanding position to be able to influence the
local people. This could not be possible unless they belonged to the ruling
It is mentioned in the Abadis i.e., the authentic traditions of Prophet
Mohammad compiled by Imam Bukhari that the Indian tribe of Jats had settled
in Arabia before Prophet Mohammad's times. Once when Hazrat Ayesha, wife
of the Prophet, was taken ill, her nephew sent for a Jat physician for
her treatment. This proves that Indians enjoyed a high and esteemed status
in Arabia. Such a status could not be theirs unless they were the rulers.
Bukhari also tells us that an Indian Raja (king) sent a jar of ginger
pickles to the Prophet. This shows that the Indian Jat Raja ruled an adjacent
area so as to be in a position to send such an insignificant present as
ginger pickles. The Prophet is said to have so highly relished it as to
have told his colleagues also to partake of it. These references show
that even during Prophet Mohammad's times Indians retained their influential
role in Arabia, which was a dwindling legacy from Vikramaditya's times.
The Islamic term 'Eed-ul-Fitr' derives from the 'Eed of Piters' that
is worship of forefathers in Sanskrit tradition. In India, Hindus commemorate
their ancestors during the Pitr-Paksha that is the fortnight reserved
for their remembrance. The very same is the significance of 'Eed-ul-Fitr'
(worship of forefathers).
The Islamic practice of observing the moon rise before deciding on celebrating
the occasion derives from the Hindu custom of breaking fast on Sankranti
and Vinayaki Chaturthi only after sighting the moon.
Barah Vafat, the Muslim festival for commemorating those dead in battle
or by weapons, derives from a similar Sanskrit tradition because in Sanskrit
'Phiphaut' is 'death'. Hindus observe Chayal Chaturdashi in memory of
those who have died in battle.
The word Arabia is itself the abbreviation of a Sanskrit word. The original
word is 'Arabasthan'. Since Prakrit 'B' is Sanskrit 'V' the original Sanskrit
name of the land is 'Arvasthan'. 'Arva' in Sanskrit means a horse. Arvasthan
signifies a land of horses., and as well all know, Arabia is famous for
This discovery changes the entire complexion of the history of ancient
India. Firstly we may have to revise our concepts about the king who had
the largest empire in history. It could be that the expanse of king Vikramaditya's
empire was greater than that of all others. Secondly, the idea that the
Indian empire spread only to the east and not in the west beyond say,
Afghanisthan may have to be abandoned. Thirdly the effeminate and pathetic
belief that India, unlike any other country in the world could by some
age spread her benign and beatific cultural influence, language, customs,
manners and education over distant lands without militarily conquering
them is baseless. India did conquer all those countries physically wherever
traces of its culture and language are still extant and the region extended
from Bali island in the south Pacific to the Baltic in Northern Europe
and from Korea to Kaaba. The only difference was that while Indian rulers
identified themselves with the local population and established welfare
states, Moghuls and others who ruled conquered lands perpetuated untold
atrocities over the vanquished.
'Sayar-ul-Okul' tells us that a pan-Arabic poetic symposium used to be
held in Mecca at the annual Okaj fair in pre-Islamic times. All leading
poets used to participate in it.
Poems considered best were awarded prizes. The best-engraved on gold
plate were hung inside the temple. Others etched on camel or goatskin
were hung outside. Thus for thousands of years the Kaaba was the treasure
house of the best Arabian poetic thought inspired by the Indian Vedic
That tradition being of immemorial antiquity many poetic compositions
were engraved and hung inside and outside on the walls of the Kaaba. But
most of the poems got lost and destroyed during the storming of the Kaaba
by Prophet Mohammad's troops. The Prophet's court poet, Hassan-bin-Sawik,
who was among the invaders, captured some of the treasured poems and dumped
the gold plate on which they were inscribed in his own home. Sawik's grandson,
hoping to earn a reward carried those gold plates to Khalif's court where
he met the well-known Arab scholar Abu Amir Asamai. The latter received
from the bearer five gold plates and 16 leather sheets with the prize-winning
poems engraved on them. The bearer was sent away happy bestowed with a
On the five gold plates were inscribed verses by ancient Arab poets like
Labi Baynay, Akhatab-bin-Turfa and Jarrham Bintoi. That discovery made
Harun-al-Rashid order Abu Amir to compile a collection of all earlier
compositions. One of the compositions in the collection is a tribute in
verse paid by Jarrham Bintoi, a renowned Arab poet, to king Vikramaditya.
Bintoi who lived 165 years before Prophet Mohammad had received the highest
award for the best poetic compositions for three years in succession in
the pan-Arabic symposiums held in Mecca every year. All those three poems
of Bintoi adjudged best were hung inside the Kaaba temple, inscribed on
gold plates. One of these constituted an unreserved tribute to King Vikramaditya
for his paternal and filial rule over Arabia. That has already been quoted
Pre-Islamic Arabian poet Bintoi's tribute to king Vikramaditya is a decisive
evidence that it was king Vikramaditya who first conquered the Arabian
Peninsula and made it a part of the Indian Empire. This explains why starting
from India towards the west we have all Sanskrit names like Afghanisthan
(now Afghanistan), Baluchisthan, Kurdisthan, Tajikiathan, Uzbekisthan,
Iran, Sivisthan, Iraq, Arvasthan, Turkesthan (Turkmenisthan) etc.
Historians have blundered in not giving due weight to the evidence provided
by Sanskrit names pervading over the entire west Asian region. Let us
take a contemporary instance. Why did a part of India get named Nagaland
even after the end of British rule over India? After all historical traces
are wiped out of human memory, will a future age historian be wrong if
he concludes from the name Nagaland that the British or some English speaking
power must have ruled over India? Why is Portuguese spoken in Goa (part
of India), and French in Pondichery (part of India), and both French and
English in Canada? Is it not because those people ruled over the territories
where their languages are spoken? Can we not then justly conclude that
wherever traces of Sanskrit names and traditions exist Indians once held
sway? It is unfortunate that this important piece of decisive evidence
has been ignored all these centuries.
Another question which should have presented itself to historians for
consideration is how could it be that Indian empires could extend in the
east as far as Korea and Japan, while not being able to make headway beyond
Afghanisthan? In fact land campaigns are much easier to conduct than by
sea. It was the Indians who ruled the entire West Asian region from Karachi
to Hedjaz and who gave Sanskrit names to those lands and the towns therein,
introduce their pantheon of the fire-worship, imparted education and established
law and order.
It may be that Arabia itself was not part of the Indian empire until
king Vikrama , since Bintoi says that it was king Vikrama who for the
first time brought about a radical change in the social, cultural and
political life of Arabia. It may be that the whole of West Asia except
Arabia was under Indian rule before Vikrama. The latter added Arabia too
to the Indian Empire. Or as a remote possibility it could be that king
Vikramaditya himself conducted a series of brilliant campaigns annexing
to his empire the vast region between Afghanisthan and Hedjaz.
Incidentally this also explains why king Vikramaditya is so famous in
history. Apart from the nobility and truthfulness of heart and his impartial
filial affection for all his subjects, whether Indian or Arab, as testified
by Bintoi, king Vikramaditya has been permanently enshrined in the pages
of history because he was the world's greatest ruler having the largest
empire. It should be remembered that only a monarch with a vast empire
gets famous in world history. Vikram Samvat (calendar still widely in
use in India today) which he initiated over 2000 years ago may well mark
his victory over Arabia, and the so called Kutub Minar (Kutub Tower in
Delhi), a pillar commemorating that victory and the consequential marriage
with the Vaihika (Balkh) princess as testified by the nearby iron pillar
A great many puzzles of ancient world history get automatically solved
by a proper understanding of these great conquests of king Vikramaditya.
As recorded by the Arab poet Bintoi, Indian scholars, preachers and social
workers spread the fire-worship ceremony, preached the Vedic way of life,
manned schools, set up Ayurvedic (healing) centres, trained the local
people in irrigation and agriculture and established in those regions
a democratic, orderly, peaceful, enlightened and religious way of life.
That was of course, a Vedic Hindu way of life.
It is from such ancient times that Indian Kshtriya royal families, like
the Pahalvis and Barmaks, have held sway over Iran and Iraq. It is those
conquests, which made the Parsees Agnihotris i.e., fire-worshippers. It
is therefore that we find the Kurds of Kurdisthan speaking a Sanskritised
dialect, fire temples existing thousands of miles away from India, and
scores of sites of ancient Indian cultural centres like Navbahar in West
Asia and the numerous viharas in Soviet Russia spread throughout the world.
Ever since so many viharas are often dug up in Soviet Russia, ancient
Indian sculptures are also found in excavations in Central Asia. The same
goes for West Asia.
[Note: Ancient Indian sculptures include metal statues of the Hindu deity
Ganesh (the elephant headed god); the most recent find being in Failaka
island in Kuwait].
Satish Oberoi <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Yes,please post second part.
Subject: Hindus not idolatrous ... since when ?
KAABA WAS A HINDU TEMPLE.
( If our friends are interested in further information, I will post the
second part of this article, which is written by Dr. Ahmed Bhutto ) Lal
This is the request and the challenge to people like Zafar Minhas to
read it with cool mind, reflect and then react. I was myself a Saudi slave
like them till ten year back. I am now free person, no more bound by facing
towards Saudia. Salutations to person like Jimmy who says that Islam was
invented by an Arab for Arabs, for low or no IQ, whose upper compartment
is missing. Islam is not a religion, but sect or an Arab movement which
has enslaved so called entire Islamic community for the sole benefit of
Saudi Arabia. I implore you all to understand this fact and try to remember
your ancesstors, their rich heritage. Below article posted by my dear
friend Dr. Ahmad Bhutto is challege to everyone to prove it wrong.
The text of the crucial Vikramaditya inscription, found inscribed on a
gold dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, is found recorded on
page 315 of a volume known as 'Sayar-ul-Okul' treasured in the Makhtab-e-Sultania
library in Istanbul, Turkey. Rendered in free English the inscription
Fortunate are those who were born (and lived) during king Vikram's reign.
He was a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his
subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in sensual
Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped
our country. Like the lamb struggling for her life in the cruel paws of
a wolf we Arabs were caught up in ignorance. The entire country was enveloped
in a darkness so intense as on a new moon night. But the present dawn
and pleasant sunshine of education is the result of the favour of the
noble king Vikramaditya whose benevolent supervision did not lose sight
of us- foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred religion amongst us
and sent scholars whose brilliance shone like that of the sun from his
country to ours. These scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence
we were once again made cognisant of the presence of God, introduced to
His sacred existence and put on the road of Truth, had come to our country
to preach their religion and impart education at king Vikramaditya's behest."
For those who would like to read the Arabic wording I reproduce it hereunder
in Roman script:
"Itrashaphai Santu Ibikramatul Phahalameen Karimun Yartapheeha Wayosassaru
Bihillahaya Samaini Ela Motakabberen Sihillaha Yuhee Quid min howa Yapakhara
phajjal asari nahone osirom bayjayhalem. Yundan blabin Kajan blnaya khtoryaha
sadunya kanateph netephi bejehalin Atadari bilamasa- rateen phakef tasabuhu
kaunnieja majekaralhada walador. As hmiman burukankad toluho watastaru
hihila Yakajibaymana balay kulk amarena phaneya jaunabilamary Bikramatum".
(Page 315 Sayar-ul-okul).
[Note: The title 'Saya-ul-okul' signifies memorable words.]
A careful analysis of the above inscription enables us to draw the following
1.. That the ancient Indian empires were extended up to the eastern boundaries
of Arabia until Vikramaditya and that it was he who for the first time
conquered Arabia. Because the inscription says that king Vikram who dispelled
the darkness of ignorance from Arabia.
2.. That, whatever their earlier faith, King Vikrama's preachers had
succeeded in spreading the Vedic (based on the Vedas, the Hindu sacred
scriptures)) way of life in Arabia.
3.. That the knowledge of Indian arts and sciences was imparted by Indians
to the Arabs directly by founding schools, academies and cultural centres.
The belief, therefore, that visiting Arabs conveyed that knowledge to
their own lands through their own indefatigable efforts and scholarship
Having seen the far reaching and history shaking implications of the
Arabic inscription concerning king Vikrama, we shall now piece together
the story of its find. How it came to be recorded and hung in the Kaaba
in Mecca. What are the other proofs reinforcing the belief that Arabs
were once followers of the Indian Vedic way of life and that tranquillity
and education were ushered into Arabia by king Vikramaditya's scholars,
educationists from an uneasy period of "ignorance and turmoil"
mentioned in the inscription.
In Istanbul, Turkey, there is a famous library called Makhatab-e-Sultania,
which is reputed to have the largest collection of ancient West Asian
literature. In the Arabic section of that library is an anthology of ancient
Arabic poetry. That anthology was compiled from an earlier work in A.D.
1742 under the orders of the Turkish ruler Sultan Salim.
The pages of that volume are of Hareer - a kind of silk used for writing
on. Each page has a decorative gilded border. That anthology is known
as Sayar-ul-Okul. It is divided into three parts. The first part contains
biographic details and the poetic compositions of pre-Islamic Arabian
poets. The second part embodies accounts and verses of poets of the period
beginning just after Mohammad's times, up to the end of the Banee-Um-Mayya
dynasty. The third part deals with later poets up to the end of Khalif
Abu Amir Asamai, an Arabian bard who was the poet Laureate of Harun-al-Rashid's
court, has compiled and edited the anthology.
The first modern edition of 'Sayar-ul-Okul' was printed and published
in Berlin in 1864. A subsequent edition is the one published in Beirut
The collection is regarded as the most important and authoritative anthology
of ancient Arabic poetry. It throws considerable light on the social life,
customs, manners and entertainment modes of ancient Arabia. The book also
contains an elaborate description of the ancient shrine of Mecca, the
town and the annual fair known as OKAJ which used to be held every year
around the Kaaba temple in Mecca. This should convince readers that the
annual haj of the Muslims to the Kaaba is of earlier pre-Islamic congregation.
But the OKAJ fair was far from a carnival. It provided a forum for the
elite and the learned to discuss the social, religious, political, literary
and other aspects of the Vedic culture then pervading Arabia. 'Sayar-ul-Okul'
asserts that the conclusion reached at those discussions were widely respected
throughout Arabia. Mecca, therefore, followed the Varanasi tradition (of
India) of providing a venue for important discussions among the learned
while the masses congregated there for spiritual bliss. The principal
shrines at both Varanasi in India and at Mecca in Arvasthan (Arabia) were
Siva temples. Even to this day ancient Mahadev (Siva) emblems can be seen.
It is the Shankara (Siva) stone that Muslim pilgrims reverently touch
and kiss in the Kaaba.
Arabic tradition has lost trace of the founding of the Kaaba temple. The
discovery of the Vikramaditya inscription affords a clue. King Vikramaditya
is known for his great devotion to Lord Mahadev (Siva). At Ujjain (India),
the capital of Vikramaditya, exists the famous shrine of Mahankal, i.e.,
of Lord Shankara (Siva) associated with Vikramaditya. Since according
to the Vikramaditya inscription he spread the Vedic religion, who else
but he could have founded the Kaaba temple in Mecca?
More will follow.
Ashok Chowgule <email@example.com> wrote:
Islam is against idols because pre-Islamic Arabs used to worship idols.
There is no scientific or logical reason behind the objection of
Mohammed against idols.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:45 AM
Subject: [Shakti-L: 571] Re: Hindus not idolatrous ... since when ?
I fail to see how idols are bad. Even the Arabs used idols in their
temples prior to being Islamicised. They were a peaceful and progressive
people at that time and didn't see other religions as "evil"
currently does. They were not that oppressive against women. All this
non-sense against Idols is comming from Muslims (and to a lesser degree
even the Christians) and these are the very people that are the least
spiritually progressive of all religious people throughout the world.
need to stop letting these Abrahamic ape men (Muslims and Christians)
dictate to us whether or not we should percieve idololotry as moral or
"Lift up the self by the Self And do not let the self droop down.For
Self is the self's only friend And the self is the Self's only foe."
Krishna (from The Bhagavad Gita )
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